First it was people smacking gum, then chewing crunchy foods with their mouth open, and now its almost any audible chewing sounds at all. My sister had a theory that putting patchouli on the soles of her feet somehow cleansed the impurities out of her system. My coworker was just a bully. LW treat this as a bullying issue, not a health issue, and proceed accordingly. We have no HR director, the owner refuses to address this. Get queasy even smelling it/seeing the bottle. Is there something else youre hoping Ill try? Your nose is a faucet, and there's no way to turn it off. swatting away an annoying fly that landed on the nose. I think its one of those scents that everyones nose interprets differently. Some of that scent is going to linger in the machine, so even if I do my clothes separately, there might be scent residue that affects the coworker. Im chemically sensitive to cheap perfumes, something in the inexpensive stuff triggers asthma and migraines. I hope this works out and she backs off, but either way, as a scent-sitive person, thank you so much for going through all this effort. Its really hard to find an average drug store might have one type of unscented shampoo for babies. I just wonder how strongly it can stick to clothes if thats how the fragrance is transferring. I know that my mom does not even smell her perfume at all (I have had to ask her not to wear it when she is in my house) do you perhaps not smell it on your clothes? Ugh, this. Laundering work clothes in unscented detergent is reasonable. yup, havent eaten bananas since I was about 5. I love the essential oil, but I abhor the incense sticks. I think OP is referring to all toiletries and detergents (including the indie oils, which she wore as perfume because she doesnt wear perfume in the literal sense). Yep. Several people wrote in to say that . If shes complaining about OPs non-smell, and if shes fragrance-sensitive, spraying febreeze is like an act of war. My massage therapist uses a really nice patchouli blend oil (its the ONLY form of patchouli I like lol) and I can STILL smell it on my clothes I have washed several times since my last massage. I wasnt rude or mean, just cold and matter-of-fact about the whole thing. If they were prevented from being able to smell, many many of them had reactions to the smell when they thought it was there and it wasnt and did not react when it was there but they didnt know. I had my last root beer float at age 9 or so, and I will never eat another one as long as I live. Id start ignoring her as you would when someone enters a room and says, my, I love your rust-colored high-top shoes! You know you are wearing black pumps so certainly no one is talking to you. :). I think this can have a lot to do with body chemistry, too I have one essential oil blend made for me that has a lot of layers, but the one that lasts the longest is kind of a candle-smoke scent. If OP regularly wore scents, it is possible the scent is there and she is noseblind to it. Its one thing to stop wearing scents. This is how our body protects itself. Sure, it could be that theres a specific scent here (like patchouli) that others in the office dont have, but it does seem a little unusual that the OP is the only one getting complaints. It seems pretty clear to me that she was referring to essential oils as a subset of perfume, and when she said she stopped wearing perfume she stopped wearing the oils too. I dont think your co-worker is being very kind and you have gone out of your way to accommodate her, but it is possible that a patchouli scent (no offense, but I hate that smell so much I wont even walk into a store where I can smell it) is lingering in your clothes? Listed as smelling like sky and linen. And yeah, it really makes me feel for the OP here. But if she has a life-threatening allergy thats on a hair trigger, youd have to ask coworkers and their families to change everything in their routines, and Im still not sure it would work. Someone I was around complained about my patchouli smell. I stopped wearing everything and she says its me when the men in the office wear cologne and shave. But youre not alone and I for one believe youre probably not the problem. Do you have a sweater or jacket that you wear on a regular basis that you keep in your office? For some reason, your colleague has become unreasonably fixated on you being the sole cause. Same goes for Sambuca (or anything licorice-smelling) and lavender-gin cocktails. The jerkishness is out of line, but even if its all in her head, its still real. Ask Fergus, Does this scarf smell offensive to you? Same with strawberry shortcake and popcorn. I understand having to accommodate a coworker with an ADA request (although correct me if Im wrong but I believe that would come directly from the company and likely wouldnt require everyone to replace all scented everything they own because that seems like an unreasonable accommodation) but in this case its a coworker who is ceaselessly complaining about the OPS existence rather than her actual scent, based on the steps shes taken. Maybe he was just made to wear it. I just get so anxious about it that I smell phantom pee. If I manage to get a load of casual-time-only clothes put together (instead of mixed work and casual), I might throw in a little bit. The fact that Coworker is specifically naming the scent (patchouli) which OP is clearly not wearing/has never worn makes me wonder if its coming from someone else passing by/sitting near their area or even through the ventilation system if it recycles the air. Diversion. I inhale the mindblowing smells and sandals I also lick, but only the inner soles where the pretty feet have met the . From what Ive read, it seems that if this happened to me I would have to spend several hundred dollars replacing every toiletry and all laundering supplies in my home, wash everything I own multiple times and most likely get all coats and heavy fabrics dry cleaned, and even THEN the coworker may still not be happy with my potential scent. I know this reaction is inappropriate! swiping a forearm across the nose. Youre lovely! If its that severe, then the person who has that reaction needs to be figuring out their own way to avoid things, not putting the entire burden of it on their coworkers. Screw this lady. Youve taken all reasonable steps mitigate this and shes being extraordinarily inappropriate with you. they may be still carrying your scented oil. Long before this point, my response would have reverted to These are the products I use. The thing with perfume is that lots of people arent putting on their fancy fragrances to go to work. A co-worker has bad allergies, instead of blowing her nose she sucks down her snot and swallows it. Dr. Shane Russell-Jenkins answered. The first day I used it, I almost retched in the shower. I know were not supposed to criticize OPs, but come on. Is your nose running a marathon? Youve made many changes to try to accommodate her and theyve been unsuccessful. That said, though, the perfume I was wearing the day she complained didnt actually have any patchouli in it, and I wear my patchouli-scented oils very sparingly. Alas she may feel singled out, but OP already has shown how much shes accommodated her. Grandboss there actually had a candle burning that was majorly causing issues, and heis version of being accommodating was to ask what candles I burn at homeNone, I have asthma. I have sniffels all the time. I think those comments are more along the lines of eliminate every possible culprit so that you can prove its not you, That and the How can you make her stop already (other than addressing it with her). it. I got to Let her sniff your jacket or your bag for example. . My bosses and I came up with some unique ways to handle my problem until I finally got a remote job for the same company. If she thought I was gone for the day, shed even use my cubicle as a spray booth for whatever reason. In high school I had a job at a chain pizza place. But what if she likes patchouli? I once had to use a scented detergent on my clothes because we were out of unscented. I have attended conferences where the registration page indicated scent-free environment, and at the opening meeting another announcement was made about not using scented products, including the soap, etc. I really can't take it anymore. One of the easiest ways to make someone squirm is to imply that they stink. No one wants to be the smelly guy in the office. I used to prefer white wine to red. Do you have a soft chair, or have you been wearing the same coat since then? Maybe she got it confused with lemongrass? Requesting a coworker to not wear perfume or oils to work is reasonable. I think its like color blindness, there must be a receptor that some people have that make them aware of something in the patchouli/patchouli type scents and the wearers arent actually able to detect the same scents. Agreed. OP, could that be the source? I dont think my colleague is trying to make give me migraines with her perfume. Something needs to break this association / habit. I dont have anything new/useful to add, but it sounds like youve gone above and beyond to accommodate your coworker. Either way, your coworker is being a jerk. I think Alisons advice is bang on, and the mediated conversations/HR accommodation advice is going to be important for snapping Coworker out of her combative/belittling behavior and into a more productive vibe. They feel so over-the-top as to be completely unreasonable to ask of a coworker. Particularly as my wash bag was also missing and I discovered the hard way that the brand of deoderant I use has a slightly different recipe in Spain to the oe it has in the UK. This woman is over the top. This is so true. (I mean, other than the usual feedback from my manager.) Im sure she encounters scents she doesnt care for every day that she has no control over and she just deals with it. This happened a couple more times over the next few months, at which point I went to my manager to let her know this was impacting my health and work and to see if it would be possible to find a resolution. Sniffle. Has your boyfriend gone to an ENT? But this sounds like a specific attack on the OP for some reason. Dude knew he shouldnt smoke and tried to quit repeatedly, and it is not like he didnt take steps to try to mitigate, but having a coworker complain repeatedly about him was mean. Thats why I like Alisons advice. I agree with you that the OP has already done a lot and the coworker is being snarky. (And even if she werent, the co-worker is clearly going about this the wrong way!). So yeah. Is it at all possible that after a long time of using scents theyre settled into a chair or the office? It doesnt make sense that OP needs to suddenly cut out all shampoo and all bath products when seemingly everyone else can use them without judgement, including us. Theres a way to deal with this coworker head on, which involves a level of comfort with direct confrontation that not everyone has. Oh, man. I dont wear the one perfume I own (which is very light and solid perfume so I can wear a very small amount) to work because I dont want to disturb coworkers. I do think at that point she would need to differentiate between something merely existing and something being a problem, though. You can smell her a mile away. You've just arrived back at the office from a heavy lunch with your colleague, and from the other side of the cubicle, you hear him let out a loud, obnoxious burp. If most people cant smell whatever your current perfume load is, then its not your problem if one person is bothered. I have 3 co-workers now who smoke, but hate how they smell after they smoke, so they take perfume showers in their cubes 3x/day. * Diets heavy in certain foods like onions and garlic (yum) may give strong body scents. I honestly just remembered there was a scented lotion I used to wear, and I would notice the smell on my clothes even after I washed them. This type of preview may stop the interrupter before he or she starts. Yes. Yes, this is what Im finding a little boggling about a lot of the comments talking about scents at home, in mattresses, sheets, etc. Even if there is some light scent hanging around (due to her conditioner or whatever) thats pretty normal. So stop it. I have to use unscented shampoo due to a skin allergy. My cat peed on a mattress after a surgery and I could not get the smell out of my nose. But when their manners just get to be too much for you,. But Id be pretty cranky if someone at work told me I had to stop using some hygiene product unless it was REALLY egregiously strong-smelling (looking at you, beloved Soap and Glory lotion that I wont wear in public). I still cant eat that stuff. Unless you saw an allergist or ENT doctor, you might never know you have it., With such a long list of possible causes, how do you get to the bottom of your runny-nose problems? The coworkers rudeness is the problem. Jobacle.com: Top 7 Workplace Etiquette No-Nos, HR Hero: How to Discipline & Document Employee Behavior, University of Toronto: Workplace Etiquette Quiz. but your coworkers will thank you. If exposed long enough, the migraine will last for 4 days, so its absolutely no joke, and my productivity drops precipitously. There might be something in the building that nobody is aware of. Im not allergic, but it just has such a terrible chemical smell that just lingers forever if my coworker wanted to get rid of me, spraying my stuff with Febreeze would do it! I dont think she does, but I think she does genuinely believe that the OP is still wearing perfume. Scent is the one sense that bypasses the frontal part of the brain and hits directly into the limbic system of the brain. That was me and popcornI worked at the concession counter of a movie theater as a teenager, and it took about five years to lose that powerful aversion to the smell of buttered popcorn. The most I would do, though, is remove my own self from the area. Your co-worker sounds like shes being a bit difficult and imposing unrealistic expectations on the OP. I think once in a while isnt likely to be a problem. Next day had the worst hangover of my life. Colleagues If you have a colleague who burps or sniffs excessively, the easiest approach is to tell her you find it offensive or unsanitary and, in the case of loud burping, do not consider it humorous. ^_^. 7)Constant messaging and texting Constant communication at work (as well as at home) is a very very good sign of friendship and mutual understanding. When Im exposed to an offending odor (man-made or natural) even if it smells pretty to me, it can trigger a migraine. Fortunately, he did not continue to complain about my scented lotion. Agreed. Its super easy to become immune to a constant smell. Exposure to substances such as smoke, fragrances or household chemicals can sometimes cause congestion and inflammation in the nose. Your nose remembers stuff your brain just doesnt and makes huge amounts of connections. I dont wear it often (I find it soothing and will sometimes put a little on in the evening, just on my wrist and just for me). Is she hassling the other people in your office? Say this to the coworker: Jane, since you raised this issue, I have stopped wearing any scented products to work, and I have washed all of my work clothes in unscented laundry detergent. But that requires A: Absolutely believing the coworker that they smell something, and convincing them you believe them and realio trulio WANT to get to the bottom of this. If her coworkers sensitivity is that acute, it is up to management to arrange that shes isolated from scents that bother her, not up to her coworkers to arrange their entire lives around it). As I said, I dont think she has one. Even on the beach, swimming, walking etc. Whenever I'm within 20 metres of a sniffer, every sniff makes my whole body . if there is a sensitivity at play here, it should be on the workplace to figure out an accommodation for the affected employeenot for OP to try even harder to obliterate every aromatic molecule from her clothes/jackets/chairs/PORES(?!!?? Yup. I only participate in consensual drum circles ;), OP, can I just say your comments have been cracking me up? But talk to your Dr. That could be the diagnoses. Im all for reasonable accommodations but they do need to be reasonable. I have found literally one laundry detergent that doesnt make me break out in hives. The exaggerated sniffing definitely sounds like she is just being a pain. I apologized and stopped. Say nothing. I once tried to get a stain out for her which required washing and drying the same garment 4 times in a row.and yep, perfume was still there, almost as strong as before. The scent literally makes me a little queasy, just like the smell of too many lilies or orchids, which are toxic to many people, especially children. This is so timely! Yeah, this is a good point. Pretty certain the vent was the culprit as once we moved to a different area she didn't emit nearly as much noise. It meant Christmas shopping really sucked for her because that is such a common smell that time of year and shed get migraines walking into stores that smelled like that. You are a much nicer person than I. I would have drawn a line in the sand with your co-worker in a likely not-nice manner. I dont have smell sensitivities, and I have a terrible sense of smell, and febreeze unscented gives me migraines. There are limits of what you can realistically ask of people. Cleveland Clinic is a non-profit academic medical center. Blech! But if OP doubled down and insists that they dont actually smell, they will frankly not hold as string a position as if they continue to be open to learning about ways they might be bringing patchouli scent to the office. Time for bending over backwards is past here. I so rarely tell anyone if their perfume or whatever bothers me (especially since it is often some other product that it scentedpeople who use scented detergents can smell really strongly to me) because it seems so loaded. They have Skype, and even video enabled robots that can go around for you. This was my initial thought as well. If this is the case and I were the OP, Id be inclined to tell a coworker that Ive done what I can, and unfortunately the scent-sensitive among us have to find a way to deal with the fact that there are unpleasant smells in this world. Im quite certain that nobody else around her is making this much of an effort to be scent-free. If the goal was to get me to move to another desk that would be a great way to accomplish it! The jerkness indicator that leaps out at me is that she is still fixated on patchouli, which is a pretty distinctive smell. /ramble. I choked on my lunch at little cloud of toxic masculinity. My husband bought some Axe bodywash once because hes oblivious and I had to tell him to replace it because that stuff was rank. And I really hope thats not the cause, but if the OP is a person of color, there is a possibility that this is a contributing factor especially if the coworker is not having issues with anyone elses scent profile. My heart rate goes up, my brain scatters, I get queasy and headache-y, etc. Shes never complained before now about my perfume, and Im sure she would mention if she was having health issues based on it. The following Monday, though, I noticed the scent was strong again, so commented to her about it. Otherwise, Alisons advice is spot on. Does coworker comment on every male in the office that uses cologne or Old Spice deodorant? Note that the issue is addressed in a business by in this case, the sniffer's manager, to the sniffer. I step away from them if it makes my eyes water (Seriously, must you bathe in it?? Ah, I see you already made my point about how other people might have conflicting allergies. Ideally, purchase some high-quality noise-canceling earphones and leave your desk. If I was told to not ever use it again in my personal life because it was bothering someone at work, Id be mighty peeved off. Coworker is being bratty and mean in a way that suggests she feels helpless (so, bullying but thinks she is the victim), and your suggestions were right on target for that aspect of the situation. It's possible that it's lingering in a way that you don't realize. Ive heard the term thrown out as an insult, similar to using the terms granola or crunchy. Otherwise, theres a whole other layer of gross here. 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