Hunters obtaining an elk tag should be aware that this unit has few elk and is considered a limited opportunity hunt. Birds are usually found in isolated coveys, and can (usually do) descend thousands of feet into inaccessible canyons after being flushed. As the fall progresses the deer become more and more secretive. Some say the great days of the Kaibab are past, others maintain things are as good or better than ever, and still others claim things will be great in the future. From the East: U.S. Hwy 89A But if you go, Good Luck!!!! Thus it is important to be prepared with suitable shelter, plenty of food, water and lots of extra fuel. Take care in species identification before dropping the hammer. Units 36A, B and C and unit 35A and 35B have good populations of mule deer (and whitetail deer). Elevations vary from 3,000' to more than 9,200', with a large plateau, the Kaibab, comprising a majority of the unit. Overview: This unit is primarily winter range for migratory deer from both the North Kaibab Plateau in Arizona and from the Paunsaugunt Plateau in southern Utah. As turkeys fly off the roost in the early pre-dawn, often the most active period of the day, they may provide a hunter the best opportunity to call in a wary old longbeard. The effects of the 58,000 acre Warm Fire during the summer of 2006 appear to be largely positive for the foreseeable future with an incredible aspen, forb, and grass response being noted. Camping is allowed on BLM administered lands over most of the unit. . After a snow storm a hunter will drive the roads found within the 12A winter deer range early in the morning looking for tracks. With continued and persistent drought the woody winter browse in 12AW has been less productive for the past several years and as result concerns over the carrying capacity of this vital range are warranted. Approximately 20% of Arizona's elk hunting opportunity is found in this unit. Areas: Any areas with concentrations of deer or sheep often have lions associated with them. If the deer are low and you glass enough it will pay off. Areas of elk concentrations change somewhat year-to-year, depending on localized summer rainfall filling stock tanks and greening up vegetation. Proactive management steps in the form of an Alternative Management Plan and a large scale habitat improvement project in cooperation with the USFS have been taken by the Arizona Game and Fish Department in order to maintain a favorable buck:doe ratio, increase the representation of older age bucks in the population, ensure long term high quality habitat, and provide for greater hunt success. Approximately 20% of Arizona's elk hunting opportunity is found in this unit. If I draw a 12A deer tag I will be there around Labor Day. Phone us at 928-713-4329 with any questions you may have. Deer Hunting in Arizona's Game Management Unit 12A - HuntScore Get unlimited access to over ten years of historical drawing and harvest data for over 1,700+ hunt units. Be prepared for remote camping as the only amenities during the spring hunt are at Jacob Lake and in Fredonia. Areas: Chukar are found throughout the Kanab Creek drainage and associated side canyons and in Paria Canyon and Vermilion Cliffs Wilderness Area. Over-the-counter elk seasons are described in the 2014 pronghorn antelope and elk regulations. Keep movements to a minimum, scan the surrounding area constantly, and listen for turkey vocalizations. Forest road 68G accesses Tule Mesa, and forest road 68 access the Pine Mountain Wilderness. Chukar also been occasionally observed in drainages to the Colorado River and along the Vermillion Cliffs in the wilderness area in 12BE. Blue Grouse, Kaibab Squirrel, Merriams Turkey, Mountain Lion, Mule Deer. Use the link, or scan code to get to this page and select the questionnaire for your hunt. Hunters should note, the OTC elk tag is not a companion or corresponding tag and has its own hunting season dates, areas and other restrictions. Once a track is located the hounds are released and the lion is pursued until treed. These hunts include the Arizona strip (Units 13A or 13B) or Kaibab (Units 12A East, 12A West and 12B) for mule deer. Arizona is known for it's coveted and hard to acquire bull elk tags. The large canyons and rocky areas that form the edges of the Kaibab and Paria plateaus are likely areas to locate lion sign. The Vermillion Cliffs and Paria Plateau in 12BE, the western side of Buckskin Mountain, and the Gunsight peninsula including Kanab Creek and Snake Gulch have seen harvests in recent years, and are good starting points. Well, I wasn't, but welcome to AHT to you also! It is recommended that hunters do not apply for this hunt in the draw but rather purchase the tags at a significant discount as left over tags. You could hire a outfitter to get in there and pin down where the few elk are. Page, Marble Canyon, Jacob Lake, Cliff Dwellers, Fredonia, Major Highways and Roads Leading To The majority of the unit is public land administered by the Bureau of Land Management, Arizona Strip District, 345 E. Riverside Drive, St. George, Utah 84770, phone (435) 688-3200. The elk nonpermit-tags are not valid in all units statewide. Be prepared for snow, mud, and adverse weather conditions, and bring plenty of supplies. Well thanks everyone for all the quick responses and for mostly confirming my suspicions. A forum community dedicated to hunting and fishing enthusiasts in the Arizona area. Hunters who. Unlike the early hunt, the late hunt is managed for harvesting older aged deer, having high hunter success, and low density of hunters. See how weather varies by elevation within a unit by selecting an elevation range. In the last couple of years, only a few elk have been spotted along the 12A/12B/12BW boundary on the west side of the Kaibab Plateau. Identification seems to be a prevalent problem for first time grouse hunters as poult turkeys, Band-tailed Pigeons, and even Northern Goshawks are often mistaken for grouse. Most of House Rock Valley is fairly flat with low rolling hills, so it is important to be able to locate the antelope from a distance and plan your stalk according to the surrounding terrain and conditions. Like mentioned above check the g&f site and give the manager a call. The Kaibab Plateau ranges from 6,000 to 9,200; vegetation consists of ponderosa pine, mixed conifer, and aspen. All off-highway vehicles must display a current OHV decal and a street legal registration if operated on a county road. These areas are open to foot and horseback travel only. The fall hunt is often characterized by warm to hot daytime temperatures and afternoon rains. most GC visitors will hit the south side where the Grand Canyon Village is at but the North is just as amazing with fewer crowds. J John McLaughlin Registered The prepared hunter is often the successful hunter. Learn more, 2018 Bison Hunter Packet 2017 Spring/Summer bison clinic video 2017 Fall bison clinic video. Hunters can report their mountain lion harvest in person, by telephone at 1-877-438-0447, or online. Bring binoculars and spotting scopes. The AZ/UT state line on a GPS unit is N37 00.0 latitude. The hunter questionnaire link is located on the back of your tag. Proactive management steps in the form of an Alternative Management Plan and a large scale habitat improvement project in cooperation with the USFS have been taken by the Arizona Game and Fish Department in order to maintain a favorable buck:doe ratio, increase the representation of older age bucks in the population, ensure long term high quality habitat, and provide for greater hunt success. The Grand Canyon National Park is not open to hunting. This squirrel is most active early in the morning and just prior to dark and is always associated with Ponderosa Pines. As the season progresses mule deer bucks on the plateau become more and more secretive. Elevations vary from 3,000 to more than 9,200, with a large plateau, the Kaibab, comprising a majority of the unit. BOOK YOUR HUNT. The best hunting techniques include walking, and watching and listening while sitting with your back to a tree. Welcome to ahf! This is a large area, so scouting will be beneficial. The average age of a buck harvested on the late hunts has climbed from just over two years of age to over 4 years of age in the past several years, yearling buck weights have stabilized at an acceptable level in recent years and as a result antler development has been excellent. No motor vehicles are allowed in the Paria Canyon/Vermilion Cliffs Wilderness Area. Articles often lead to false expectations; huge bucks do not exist behind every tree anywhere in the world. Game and fish would rather have hunters do it legally. Mature grouse average between 2 and 4 pounds of succulent white meat and provide delicious table fare. Post not marked as liked . Also, before the hunt begins, study topo maps and enlist the aid of others who have hunted the area before. Most of the land we provide drop camps on are public land, however, we do offer hunts that have private land access for an additional cost. Cold nights are the norm in all seasons, specially in non summer months. This area will provide an excellent opportunity for archery and early season general deer hunters for the foreseeable future. Four-wheel drive, chains, shovels, and winches can keep you hunting instead of being stuck for a day. After this hunt, you will know what hunt never to apply for again, other then Lots of deer in whole area, and some monsters. In addition to the 48-hr reporting requirement, the hunter (or their designee) needs to present the mountain lions skull and hide with attached proof of sex to a designated Arizona Game and Fish Department employee for inspection within 10 days of taking the mountain lion. The state line is only marked at dirt road crossings. Finally, enjoy the finest terrain, climate, and surroundings that nature has to offer, the Kaibab Plateau. This includes chasing, pursuing, or herding antelope with any type of vehicle. Since 2007 an increase in the number of squirrels observed has taken place, with the advent of more favorable environmental variables we are seeing a corresponding increase in the squirrel population. No motor vehicles are allowed in the Paria Canyon/Vermilion Cliffs Wilderness Area. 661 leftover tags for a reason. Enjoy the natural splendor of the Kaibab Plateau, revel in your good fortune at having a tag, but most of all be a responsible sportsman and represent our sport in the best manner possible. Create a free account to read the rest of this elk hunting note! Major Cities and Towns in or Near Game Management Unit and Nearest Gas, Food, and Lodging Waterhole hunting becomes less productive as frost begins to supply the need for water. Good optics are a must for both scouting and glassing during your hunt. Excellent recruitment and low winter mortality for the past several years has lead to population levels similar to the early 90s. Many come with visions of 32 wide racks with multiple points per side, still others are happy with a tender yearling forkhorn. Books and countless articles have been written on the subject. Our Arizona hunting unit scouting packages were developed to give the do it yourself hunter a head start when planning their Arizona Deer, Elk, Bear and Javelina hunts. Create a free account to read the rest of this access note! The Paria Plateau, which is surrounded by the Paria canyon-Vermillion Cliffs Wilderness Area, has few roads and can only be accessed from BLM road 1065 on the west side of the plateau. Good boots, parkas, and camping gear can make or break your hunt. During the fall hunt gas, food, and lodging can be found in Fredonia, Jacob Lake, and near DeMotte Park. A relatively constant output of older age-class deer has been evident, throughout the history of the plateau. Advertise on HuntScore and reach hunters interested in this hunting unit! Elk seasons are described in the pronghorn antelope and elk regulations. Harvesting birds should be viewed as a bonus. The Kaibab Squirrel is a subspecies of the Aberts Squirrel which is found only on the Kaibab Plateau, Mount Logan, and Mount Trumbull. Elevations range from 6,500-9,000. Beginning at U.S. Hwy 89A and the Kaibab Naitonal Forest boundary near mp 566; southerly and easterly along the forest boundary to Grand Canyon National Park; southerly and westerly along the park boundary to Kanab Creek; northerly along Kanab Creek to Snake Gulch; northerly, easterly and southerly around the Kaibab National Forest boundary to U.S. Hwy 89A near mp 566. Hunters can report their mountain lion harvest in person, by telephone at 1-877-438-0447, or online at https://www.azgfd.com/Hunting/Questionnaires/. Areas: As stated earlier, concentrate your efforts in areas with large Ponderosa Pine trees and focus your observation skills on the forest floor. Tree stands up or down canyon from waters can be excellent and reduce the inevitable territorial dispute with other hunters over the waterhole. On the ever in demand 12A late hunt, pray (if religious) for snow. Also, several lions are sighted each year by hunters glassing canyons and watching waters. John is that a unit that can produce a monster bull? During the spring hunt be prepared for cold temperatures and even snow. Want to hunt as soon as 1-3 years? Favorite Deer Units : 13 b ,12a, 12b, 10, 17a & b,18b , 21, 23, 44, 20c Favorite Antelope Units: 5a, 7, 9, 10, 7a, 18a. During the spring hunt be prepared for cold temperatures and even snow. This area is very remote with only a few conveniences provided at the communities of Vermilion Cliffs, Cliff Dwellers, Marble Canyon, Fredonia/Kanab, and Jacob Lake. The best hunting techniques include walking, and watching and listening while sitting with your back to a tree. Just bad luck. If frost has cured out the summer range forage and some cold weather has struck, concentrate your efforts in the pinyon/juniper areas and even farther out in the sage and open canyon country. The Warm Springs and Nail Canyon areas in 12AW, the Cocks Combs area in 12AE, and the Paria Platea have seen harvests in recent years and are good starting points. The units lower elevations, those surrounding the plateau, consist of pinyon-juniper stands, open sagebrush, and cliff rose pushes. Unit 12A is bounded on the south by the Grand Canyon, on the west by Kanab Creek, on the east by House Rock Valley, and on the north by the Buckskin Mountains and the Arizona-Utah border. See all stats but the last 2 years with a free account! It is the hunters responsibility to know where they are and the state line is patrolled heavily by both Utah and Arizona law enforcement. Overview: Chukar Partridge is an overlooked game bird in this unit. Travel Management Planning Update: The BLM is the primary federal land management agency across unit12B. Watching waterholes that have turkey sign around them provide the turkey hunter with the best opportunity to bag a bearded turkey during this often dry time of the year. 3799 - Units 12A, 12B, 13A, and 13B have an extremely low-density elk population, about 40-50 elk combined for all four units. If you are fortunate enough to receive a coveted 12A deer tag you might consider purchasing a mountain lion tag before heading to the Kaibab. Use temperature ranges to plan and prepare for your hunt. Often roosting turkeys will respond to these calls giving a hunter a location to begin the mornings hunt. . If you are fortunate enough to draw one of the most sought after deer tags in the United States come to the Kaibab with realistic expectations. Address 123 Main Street New York, NY 10001, Hours MondayFriday: 9:00AM5:00PM Saturday & Sunday: 11:00AM3:00PM. After a snow storm a hunter will drive the roads found within the Unit 12 winter deer range early in the morning looking for tracks. LIST VIEW. Also, several lions are sighted each year by hunters glassing canyons and watching waters. While calling can sometimes be productive, the most successful technique is more similar to archery hunting mule deer. On a 12A early hunt, once again, dont bother with pinyon/juniper habitat types unless it has snowed. Being prepared on this hunt is even more crucial than on the early hunt. From the West: State Hwy 389 Elk season dates can be found in the regulations. Likewise, hunters who want to hunt the Paria Plateau must apply for a 12B permit. Remember, 30 bucks are special because they are extremely, extremely rare. Some lions have been harvested incidental to these other activities. Most of the scouting packages we offer are two days. Unlock the secrets of limited license lotteries and discover drawing and harvest trends to create a better hunt planning strategy. As mentioned above, the main concentration of antelope is in House Rock Valley. The grouse season in the fall provides a beautiful time to camp on the Kaibab and an inability to locate grouse is a great excuse for enjoying some of the finest scenery and weather Arizona has to offer. Check stock tanks for elk use (tracks) prior to the season. Hunters who have no desire to hunt the Paria Plateau and want to hunt the Buckskins or the west side winter range should apply for a 12BW permit. Overview: The Unit 12A Mountain Lion population, based on harvest information and observed lion sign, appears to be healthy and robust. Elk summer in the higher elevations, and as snow depths increase, they move north to lower elevations. Elevation ranges from 4000 to 7000 feet with vegetation consisting primarily of pinion-juniper and sagebrush flats. Please contact any department office for additional information or to purchase an elk OTC tag. A good pair of binoculars and spotting scope will improve the chance of taking a trophy bull. Some lions have been harvested incidental to these other activities. A few, very few elk wander south from Utah now and then. Some bighorns have also been taken from the north rim of the Paria Canyon and near spring sources along the Vermilion Cliffs. Birds can sometimes be found along the Paria River, but they generally occupy the upper benches along the cliffs, high above the river. Also look for turkey scratch, those locations where flocks of turkeys have been feeding and have disturbed the litter layer of the forest floor. During the hunting seasons, unit 12A is characterized by sudden and drastic weather changes. During December, sheep are generally found at lower elevations on the talus slopes below the steep cliff faces. Hunters purchasing an elk tag should be aware that this unit has very few elk and is considered a limited opportunity hunt. Concentrate on areas that are more inaccessible. That is not a problem since the other units may not have any elk at all. So what do you think Bearfoot1? Overview: The world famous, or infamous, Kaibab Mule Deer herd. hunter success will increase with time spent glassing. Areas: The Buckskin Mountains in the central portion of the unit contains the highest densities of deer and is best to hunt after mid-October. First, on an archery hunt dont bother with pinyon/juniper areas unless it has snowed (not likely). As the crow flies its not more than 50 miles to the north end of the Kaibab plateau. During both the spring and fall hunts be safe and acquire positive target identification. The Arizona Game and Fish Department has posted a list of leftover hunt permit-tags, as well as a printable paper application, on its website. Unit 12A continues to provide the turkey hunter and/or wildlife enthusiast a unique opportunity to observe Merriams Turkeys. There are several small herds that reside on the north side of Highway 89A in the grassland. In the last few years, only a few elk or elk sign has been seen, mainly around Rock Canyon and the Pine Hollow habitat treatments. As a result of continued drought those areas of higher elevation, specifically those areas with spruce/fir/aspen forests have been the most productive areas for the past several years. During the early 12B hunts, deer are typically concentrated in the pinyon-juniper and along meadow edges at higher elevations in the Buckskins, southwest toward Snake Gulch. Salt licks are a great attractant for deer and provide the same opportunity as waterholes. No off-road travel by motor vehicles is allowed. Elevations vary from 3,000' to more than 9,200', with a large plateau, the Kaibab, comprising a majority of the unit. Be prepared for remote camping as the only amenities during the spring hunt are at Jacob Lake and in Fredonia. Motor vehicle travel is restricted to existing roads on all BLM land in the Unit. There are no services on top of the Paria Plateau. The most common technique for lion hunting in Unit 12 is similar to that used throughout the Rim country in Arizona. Antelope, Bighorn Sheep, Mule Deer, Chukar. Although these are a little tougher hunts, a trophy Arizona elk is definitely a likely possibility to harvest. Climate Information We consider 5B North to have 350+ potential on early archery hunts. Areas: Most of the desert bighorn sheep in unit 12BE are found within the Paria Canyon-Vermillion Cliffs Wilderness Area. Dispersed camping is allowed along BLM routes. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The Kaibab Squirrel is a subspecies of the Aberts Squirrel which is found only on the Kaibab Plateau, Mount Logan, and Mount Trumbull. New Harvest Thresholds When the number of harvested mountain lions reaches the threshold, that zone closes to the additional harvest of mountain lions at sundown the Wednesday immediately following. If you plan on hunting in higher elevation, as a rule of thumb, expect the tempture to decrease roughly 5 for every 1000' in elevation gain. Areas: Concentrate your efforts on the southeast side of the Plateau in sub-unit 12AE. Very few services are available for gas and food. Find areas overlooking large open expanses and plan on sitting still for hours on end and glassing until you feel like your eyes are going to fall out. No motor vehicles are allowed in the Paria Canyon/Vermilion Cliffs Wilderness Area. JavaScript is disabled. Although 12A/12B is not known for its record breaking antelope bucks, hunt success has typically been around 40% for archery and 100% for rifle. Game Management Unit 12A Elevations vary from 3,000' to more than 9,200', with a large plateau, the Kaibab, comprising a majority of the unit. Bachelor herds are typically broken up by this hunt and bucks can be relatively evenly distributed throughout the plateau. However, locating and harvesting an antlerless deer is likely to become more challenging as these animals become more educated about two-legged visitors to the plateau. 586. Come prepared for all types of weather. The Alternative Deer Management Plan provides the guidelines for which decisions on hunt recommendations are made. Finally, remember that you could be sitting in the office and enjoy the opportunity to get away and take part in the oldest most admirable sport there is. The Warm Springs and Nail Canyon areas in 12AW and the Cocks Combs area in 12AE are good starting points. There are many stock tanks located throughout House Rock Valley and the antelope herds tend to center their activities on these water sources depending on the frequency of summer monsoons. The Paria Plateau to the east has the lowest number of deer. Books and countless articles have been written on the subject. 3799 - Units 12A, 12B, 13A, and 13B have an extremely low-density elk population, about 40-50 elk combined for all four units. Once a track is located the hounds are released and the lion is pursued until treed. As a result of continued drought those areas of higher elevation, specifically those areas with spruce/fir/aspen forests have been the most productive areas for the past several years. Note: 12BW is the entire portion of 12B that is west of BLM road 1065 (House Rock Valley/ Coyote Valley Road), excluding the Paria Plateau. All three hunts are for any . Happens every year. This behavior includes becoming more and more nocturnal, spending more time in thick aspen and mixed conifer stands, and remaining in unroaded canyon habitats. Areas:Any areas with concentrations of deer often have lions associated with them. Practice with a flat shooting rifle at longer distances before the hunt begins. Anyone drawing a 16A elk tag should be prepared to work hard on both scouting and hunting trips. Not all weather elements are available within the unit. Grouse, like squirrels, appear to be most active early in the morning but walking throughout the day can result in flushed birds. Unit 12A continues to provide the turkey hunter and/or wildlife enthusiast a unique opportunity to observe Merriam's Turkeys. Elevations range from approximately 4,000 in Glen Canyon to 7,000 on the Paria Plateau. Check for current or recent wildfires in this area. *There are open limited opportunity draw bison hunts offered in 12A/12B/13A as well as general non-permit tag (non-draw) elk hunts offered in 12B. Hunters are required to report their mountain lion harvest information to the Arizona Game and Fish Department within 48 hours of taking a mountain lion. A good bird dog can be of great assistance in retrieving downed birds. Overview: The world famous, or infamous, Kaibab Mule Deer herd. Remember that hunting with the aid of a vehicle is prohibited. JM. . I had a similar tag 10 years ago for the Kaibab proper. 12A includes the Kaibab plateau that actually starts in southern Utah and rising up to the south to 9300+ ft. Humphreys Peak is the highest point in Arizona, sitting at 12,637 feet in elevation, and it is a dormant volcano. They were good 330-350 bulls. Follow a few simple rules and your chance of success will increase exponentially. 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