I see how you fired a shot across IFMAs bow last week. I have been in similar situations where it is damned if I do damned if I dont. They ONLY DO WHAT THEIR CLIENTS TELL THEM TO DO. No, they stood by and let their customers get screwed. Great grip and trigger. I am still trying to figure out how best to get rid of my XD-40 and assist in flooding the market with used XD pistols. We picked up a few seats last fall, but that simply moved the average ideology of the Dem members further left in our state legislature. Good luck with that RRA. They ignored it. Grow the hell up and when you get some big boy panties and own your own business you will understand how it works. If youre looking begin your 3-Gun or short-stage PRS competition endeavors, the Rock River Arms RRAGE 2G may be your ticket. As for Springfield Armory, Im really sorry to see them cross over to the dark side. Damn This is turning into that mob with the torches looking for Frankenstein. More recently, they do this big Saint countdown/reveal that just ends up being Another Entry-Level AR-15, just what the market needed. Also, RRA derives the bulk of its money from government and LE contracts so youll have a really hard time bankrupting them with a civvie sales boycott. They make a so-so M14 copy that can only stand up because Norinco cant export their el-cheapo copy here anymore. Even cosmetologists and lawyers. At the same time, Rock River Arms began to build AR-15 style rifles. Rock River Arms also produces M1911 pattern pistols, bolt-action rifles, and AR-15 style pistols in assorted calibers. [5] [6] We beat back a similar bill last year. There never was a Henry fi rearms company (until 2002). Compare. Overall, this is a good, solid rifle. I posted a similar comment on another article about the same subject matter, but again, and for emphasis: SPRINGFIELD IS DEAD TO ME. Along with lost new sales, this boneheaded move will kill resale values. How does what a lobbying group receives from a company 3 years ago translate to what the lobbying group does in the present? It may not even pass the House. Allexcept for gun owners and the non-big box store gun dealers who have to live and work in the Land of Lincoln. It happens ALL THE TIME, and with companies much larger than RRA. Since you researched IFMA you also noticed that the $100K was the ONLY money they had in their account, donated by only two companies, SAI and RRA. 84283412342. In fact, I own a Springfield M1A Scout Squad that they gave me free of charge after I encountered a series of malfunctions with an old SAR8. But I wont EVER support a company who actively supports an infringement of any kind. I want to see how they fix the mess they created with the people who liked their product. This is income tax refund time. No lobbyist will take a position without their clients approval, because THE CLIENT PAYS THE LOBBYISTS SALARY. Hindsight is always 20/20 and the Liberal Dems are always after our Firearms Freedoms. The rifle comes fully loaded with a Rock River two-stage Please, spend your money where you want. Shocking I know. Not a nice odor. Folks like me are willing to kill for them. Couple of Butler Buildings, concrete pad to support machinery loading, movers and a power hookup. They spent weeks trying to gin up interest in the XD-E introduction with their mysterious ads, and it was all for nothing. And I believe it came with an internal lock on the main spring housing. This says a lot about the people running the company. Fuck them for gouging desperate buyers. This year, State Senator Don Harmon needed IFMA to end their opposition to his bill. And to be fair, those are twice the price of the Ruger. After the 2004 sunset of the Assault Weapons Ban, AR pistols developed rapidly and have become popular. How did the unveiling of the new pistol go? AR-15 Parts. While it was a great pistol, the front strap checkering was just way too aggressive for bare hands. Find gray, black, tan, alpine and other finishes on these .223 Rem / 5.56mm, .450 Bushmaster or 6.8 SPC chambered rifles. The vocal retards who screamed about this conveniently ignored that last part. CEODennis Reese hasntresponded to a request for comment or a further statement beyond the one he released Thursday night. I imagine that there will be a few FFLs leaving IL. I have talked to people in person in TN that were overjoyed at having Beretta move there. Several other really good CCs out there too if you want one of the big mfgs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History. After Ruger (finally) gets all of its new products launched they will have just about all the bases covered. Great gun. Wheres the proof they had enough influence to dictate what that organization did. Your opinion and yourre entitled to it and welcome to voice it here, though it seems you prefer that others not voice theirs if they disagree with you. Lots of work. County fairs? RRA should be punished too. Advertise their treachery. And gun control wins, like this keep the gravy train flowing so they can continue to draw a paycheck and keep on going. Rock River Arms is a firearms manufacturer located in Colona, Illinois. Why does Ruger all of the sudden get a pass on treachery? The local ones are more like highway bandits than gun dealers. WebCoyote Carbine Upper Half LAR-15M .300 AAC. Thanks for Nothing SA. I dont expect everyone to feel that way. Springfields crime here is they didnt immediately counter the IFMA when the IFMA dropped opposition to a bill. Damage done. They have a good ongoing business, why jeopardize it? My time stinks apparently. No more. Dont need it, but I kinda like it. That alone is enough to put them out of business. Wasnt there big stink couple years ago about so called kitchen table FFLs not realy conducting business for living and just getting wholesale pricing on guns for themselves and their family members? Its like trying to work with Bloomberg himself. It washis lobbyist whostood aside on a bill that rations everyday Illinoisans to nine firearm transfers per year. This wasnt the first time gun dealer licensing has come up in Illinois. Never bought anything Springfield Armory, never will! Like other gun-manufacturers Springfield can move its operations to a gun-friendly state. The future for firearms manufacturers is less than certain due to falling demand and moving a 50year old corporation like SA out of state is a huge expenditure. You and your mindset are one of the problems with this country. (And I can guarantee he would never speak to me like that in person.). Rock River Arms is an American manufacturer of firearms that was founded in 1996. Now for 2022, the company ups the game for hunters with the introduction of the All-Terrain Hunter (ATH) , a mid-length rifle that stands tall in the field of AR-platform hunting rifles. WebRock River Arms AR15 Uppers for Sale at Joe Bob Outfitters! Whats more, Larson seems genuinely appalled by what happened. The CMMG MkW-15 XBE Anvil gets the top pick for enthusiasts that handload or shoot a lot. If workers still want a job, its a reasonable commute. Enjoy 45% Off Rock River Arms Goods At Walmart. Rock Rivers LAR-15 NSP CAR is a lightweight, reliable, well-made and accurate AR carbine that is ready for duty right out of Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Watch the TonyBen videos on YouTube. 3/18/2013. cant hornor us people gun rights I say F THEM ALL. January 2023. Springfield Armory is a dishonest operation from stem to stern. Its like saying Saturn is really, really big, and huge, too! It might not have, but then again, if Senator Harmon didnt think it wouldnt have gotten himthat last vote or two he needed, he wouldnthave offered the deal. What should be boycotted is this garbage blog. Not to mention that when S&W colluded with Clinton they were owned by the British engineering firm Tomkins. I have LOUDLY mentioned their treachery on the dozens of FB groups I belong to. CMMG .300 blackout will become my next purchase. How did Ruger even survive to do a turn-around? Henry and Ruger for the win. Olympic Arms continued this legacy with its OA-93, OA-96 and OA-98 models. But it will be history at my house. My inventory of six XD pistols two 1911 .45s and two M 1As will be up for sale tommorow. Anytown on I80 feels like the Chicago area to the downstaters. thats what Illinois is hoping for stand our ground, Springfield got me right in my Grip Zone with this move, bu-bye SA. Yes, a company can move and thrive, as it only a matter of time before the cutout is removed and they are closed down. Youre welcome to come visit and help during the next election cycle. Probably go back to looking at CZ and Walther offerings. you cant fix prices or youll get a shortage. Damn shame. How is he still employed? As the market changes so does our pricing. You shouldve made that decision because it is a piece of garbage, not because of this hysterical article. Just as its equally acceptable for folks like me to attempt to boycott them into bankruptcy. I would start negotiating with one of those for manufacturing space and move my entire operation to a gun-friendly climate. This is a digital day/night scope. When S&W is in the position to potentially block anti-gun legislation but decides not to because it is better for their business even if it screws their customers, THEN YOU WILL SEE ME call for an S&W boycott. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. A whole lot of gun owners see the deal as a sell-out. Out of stock. Maybe they should look to Beretta. business or not your customers are your lively hood. Theyre both stuck now. Its sad but it happens. Oh, hell no, he told me. If they are both single stage, they will basically feel the same. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Fred Eichler Predator 223 Remington/5.56 NATO AR15 Semi Auto Rifle $ Remove from Compare Add to Compare. Dont own a Springfield anything and now never will. 3) Lobbyist got paid by someone else to convince his clients this was a slick deal. However, if youre willing to spend a little extra money on your rifle, Rock River Arms is definitely worth considering. RRA donated money as well I think they knew about stuff going on, but want to pretend they did not. Theyre sole purpose is to protect their own interests. This should put some perspective on how important this issue is to many of us. Same here. Neither excuse is a proper justification. After asking you if youd like to sign up for a membership, and cc insurance. Typical narrow minded hypocrites. Smith and Wessons deal with the Klinton regime also brought us the infamous and deplorable hillary hole internal lock. Make it a campaign issue NOW. Pretty small and isolated country town. The silent majority will get the shaft, not gonna be any civil war, get over yourself. Its easy for consumers to march elsewhere, skilled Illinois tradespeople may not be so lucky. Rock River Arms is an American manufacturer of firearms that was founded in 1996. I say boycott both RRA and Sprinfield until they get sold off to someone who cares about gun owners. Sorry for the spelling error. I cant imagine the CEOs of those two companies werent in the loop on these negotiations. In short, this means rifle-makers need to adapt, and one company taking that step is Rock River Arms (RRA) with its LAR-15 Operator III in 5.56mm NATO. You have entered an incorrect email address! I have to say this really makes me mad. The plant where that rifle is made revitalized the area n which it is made. Im appalled that Rock River thinks that we are that gullible.. That kind of thing actually happens all the time in lobbying. If you dont like their price dont buy. So I have to ask. Make this a massive intractable mess. I also find their use of Springfield Armory in their advertising repulsive, implying over 240 years of history in the current company, starting in 1777. So, if youre looking for a cheap AR-15, Rock So thats a reason for ignoring the fact that Ruger basically wrote the assault weapons ban? Nothing unethical about this practice. Keyboard commandos wont fight it out on any battlefield. It only sells a 100% American Made product using American Labor. Thats how capitalism works. And the law mainly affecting small businesses, thats a feature, I think, not a bug. Having this blow up the day before a brand-new product launch at the NRA convention is basically the exact opposite of fortuitous timings for Springfield. Made in US, SSteel frame, ambi controls, no mag safety, field strips/assembles in less than a minute with no tools or pulling trigger. Was also saving up for an m1a. 2) One of the Resses got caught doing something bad again, and a deal was reached to help anti-2nd forces in exchange for an investigation going away. Low character move. So an opportunity to block others selling in Illinois seemed like a quick and dirty way to make a few more bucks. WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. Never a single problem, thousands of rounds. Moved my medical business AND brought my family. Thats rolling over and showing your belly while wagging your tail. God Bless America, As a dealer I will no longer suggest either one of these firearm companies to my customers or stock them there are many other fine firearms on the market. We need the pistols to get to our rifles anyway. We will support our Illinois brethren and NOT purchase anything from Springfield Armory or RRA. Like a shrewd negotiator, Harmonhappily added a manufacturer and big box retailer carve-out to the bill so he couldcobble together the last few votes he needed to get it through the Senate. At least Henry, like Ruger, is 100% American. A CEO that listens to the customer. Nothing Springfield will ever be in my collection now. Sadly I have two. September 30, 2010 By Greg Rodriguez. Bill may not have been perfect (who is), but his passion for firearms was solid and he was known as Americas Gunmaker, for good reasons. Thats a double-whammy of reduced demand in the current market. Now they will pay the price. How many model airplanes can I buy, sell or trade in one year? in some cases they are just as passionate about their brands. Rugers stated public position was screw every other gun manufacturer and screw the American gun owners, as long as Ruger makes it and we want government contracts! Meanwhile, over at the Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. Or cameras? After his passing, a new leadership took over the company with many positive results. Glock and S&W sell their guns to states like NY, NJ, HI that trample our 2A rights every day but I dont see you bashing them and Ill bet most of you own a Glock or a S&W. What gets me is there has been plenty of time and opportunity for damage control or to save face but they havent done anything to fix what theyve done. Aluminum Mags Just Starting At $14.00 At Rock River Arms. I hope that it will bankrupt them, for it appears to be the only way these gun companies will learned to to alienate their comsumers. The NRA would likely throw you and your fliers in the dumpster. Rock Solid: Rock River Arms NSP CAR Rifle. Rock River's LAR-458 is the top pick for hunters because of its value, excellent trigger and superb accuracy. Thank you for bringing this issue to the forefront. Cancelled orders? The lobbying group in question received money from SA and RRA back in 2014. When you need mags that you can count on with each and every shot, make sure you turn to Rock River Arms! WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Lightweight Mountain Rifle | MT1800X 5.56 NATO (223 Rem), 16" Chrome-Moly Lightweight BBL, Semi-Automatic, 6-Position Black Stock, Black Finish, RRA Lightweight, 30+1 Rds. You ask what was Springfield supposed to do? Springfield isnt doing anything that the vast majority of companies do, protecting their bottom line. Anyone who tries will come out worse for the experience. Which would help with elimination if in the future. Its not just selling, genius. Your Price: $744.13. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). When I contacted Springfield about getting some spare magazines for my M1A, they told me they wouldnt sell to me because I lived in New York. Initially I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but after I thought about Reeses statement, and now that Ive seen Larsons statement, I would have liked to see hecklers run Springfields employees right out of Atlanta. Keller dropped IFMAs opposition, providing cover for a couple of wavering Senators to vote for the bill. Rock River Arms sent me a 6.5 Creedmoor rifle with a tan stock and 24-inch barrel for testing. 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